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source - http://www.pcworld.com/article/3129276/components-graphics/why-amd-freesync-is-beating-nvidia-g-sync-on-monitor-selection-and-price.html

 

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Nvidia's Petersen suggested that addressing these mid-tier markets isn’t a priority. “I think over time, you’ll see lower-priced monitors that are lower-featured, that include G-Sync, but it’s not our goal,” Petersen says. “Our goal is to provide a premium gaming experience, and the premium gaming experience requires a lot of hands-on work from Nvidia, and that’s where we’re going to continue to focus over time.”
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If you read the rest of the article the take away I got from it is basically that both manufacturers and Nvidia are going to continue to push for g-sync only to the top end gaming monitors where the profit margins are larger. They just are not looking to push it mainstream. Looks like free-sync and non-sync-tech monitors will continue to be the mainstream and budget choice for most gamers but that doesn't mean there are no decent options in that segment.

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You better make sure your next monitor with HDMI 2.0 has HDCP 2.2.....

 

4k YouTube won't play on my non-HDCP 2.2 monitor with ChromeCast Ultra

You better make sure your next monitor with HDMI 2.0 has HDCP 2.2.....

 

4k YouTube won't play on my non-HDCP 2.2 monitor with ChromeCast Ultra

 

They actually do not mention HDCP anywhere, even in the official press release. I have to imagine they will stick to the latest standard....

 

They do hint at a price though.

 

source 1 - http://edgeup.asus.com/2017/01/04/rog-pg27uq-intro/

source 2 - http://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/press-release-republic-of-gamers-announces-swift-pg27uq/

 

 

It’s scheduled to arrive in North America in Q3 for $1199.

 

Cheaper than I expect but still $$$$$$$$ for a monitor.

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Double posting.

 

source (PDF) - http://www.www8-hp.com/us/en/images/OMEN_X_35_Display_Datasheet_tcm245_2386955_tcm245_2385012_tcm245-2386955.pdf

 

HP Omen X 35

  • 35"
  • 21:9 ratio
  • 3440× 1440 resolution
  • VA panel
  • 100 Hz refresh
  • g-sync

At first glance it seems similar to the Acer Predator X34 but it's 1" bigger and uses a different panel.

 

EDIT: .....and apparently it's already got a listing on Amazon ($1300): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0TFAW6/

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source - http://www.kitguru.net/peripherals/monitors/matthew-wilson/the-asus-swift-pg27uq-is-the-worlds-first-144hz-4k-gaming-monitor/

 

Asus Swift PG27UQ

  • 27"
  • IPS
  • 3840×2160 (4K)
  • G-Sync
  • 144Hz refresh rate
  • HDR
  • 2x DisplayPort 1.4
  • 1x HDMI 2.0

Well then.

 

source - http://www.anandtech.com/show/11014/asus-demonstrates-rog-swift-pg27uq-4k-144-hz-hdr-dcip3-and-gsync

 

I'm not sure who is to blame for this but Anandtech is saying this is a VA panel, not IPS. Asus's own press release says IPS. I really hope this doesn't become a thing where people just interchangeable use IPS and VA. I realize there are many similarities but I don't like it.

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Double posting.

 

source (PDF) - http://www.www8-hp.com/us/en/images/OMEN_X_35_Display_Datasheet_tcm245_2386955_tcm245_2385012_tcm245-2386955.pdf

 

HP Omen X 35

  • 35"
  • 21:9 ratio
  • 3440× 1440 resolution
  • VA panel
  • 100 Hz refresh
  • g-sync

At first glance it seems similar to the Acer Predator X34 but it's 1" bigger and uses a different panel.

 

EDIT: .....and apparently it's already got a listing on Amazon ($1300): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0TFAW6/

 

product page - http://us.aoc.com/product_feature.php?id=90

amazon - https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG352UCG-Curved-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B06X9CBRTP

 

AOC AG352UCG

  • 35"
  • curved
  • 21:9 ratio
  • 3440x1440 resolution
  • MVA panel
  • g-sync
  • 100 Hz refresh rate
  • 35"
  • $900

So people are saying this is the same panel as the HP and it shares a lot of the same specs so people are wondering if this is the budget model (since the HP is $400 more).

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Double posting.

 

source (PDF) - http://www.www8-hp.com/us/en/images/OMEN_X_35_Display_Datasheet_tcm245_2386955_tcm245_2385012_tcm245-2386955.pdf

 

HP Omen X 35

  • 35"
  • 21:9 ratio
  • 3440× 1440 resolution
  • VA panel
  • 100 Hz refresh
  • g-sync

At first glance it seems similar to the Acer Predator X34 but it's 1" bigger and uses a different panel.

 

EDIT: .....and apparently it's already got a listing on Amazon ($1300): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0TFAW6/

 

product page - http://us.aoc.com/product_feature.php?id=90

amazon - https://www.amazon.com/AOC-AG352UCG-Curved-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B06X9CBRTP

 

AOC AG352UCG

  • 35"
  • curved
  • 21:9 ratio
  • 3440x1440 resolution
  • MVA panel
  • g-sync
  • 100 Hz refresh rate
  • 35"
  • $900

So people are saying this is the same panel as the HP and it shares a lot of the same specs so people are wondering if this is the budget model (since the HP is $400 more).

 

 

tft central review came out today - http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/aoc_agon_ag352ucg.htm

 

Contrast is great (like many VA panels). Input lag is good. Color is good (after calibration). Uniformity on their sample was not great. Response time is just barely able to keep up with the refresh rate.

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I think the bigger issue is that the viewing angles are much closer to old AMVA or even TN levels.

Here's the AOC AG352UCG viewing angles:

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Compared to the Acer X34 (AHVA panel):

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That's a night and day difference, I'm not sure that's a compromise I'd be willing to make.

 

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I think the bigger issue is that the viewing angles are much closer to old AMVA or even TN levels.

Here's the AOC AG352UCG viewing angles:

 

Compared to the Acer X34 (AHVA panel):

 

 

That's a night and day difference, I'm not sure that's a compromise I'd be willing to make.

 

 

Hotlinks broken. Not sure why.

 

I am of the opinion that viewing angles are a bit overemphasized both in reviews like this one and in user reviews (read: enthusiasts). I use TNs at work. I use TNs at home. TNs have the worst viewing angles of all the panel techs. I don't run into color shift problems that often.

 

That being said, I still feel like the sweet spot right now is still the 144hz, IPS, 1440p, 27" monitors since even the best of these large, curved, g-sync, 100hz screens still have small issues that kind of make them less than perfect imho (search page for "odd behaviour").

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I do think that I'm making a bigger deal out of viewing angles than I should be. Especially considering those pictures are showing extreme viewing angles.

I think if I have an option of choosing an IPS-type display or a non-IPS-type display I'd just rather go with the IPS-type because I've seen less drawbacks from that technology. Although the odd behavior that they've mentioned with the big curved monitors is probably at least partly to do with the overclocks being applied to them. Both the Acer X34 and the Asus ROG Swift PG348Q are sold as 60hz with 100hz overclocking available.

 

I know that companies are aiming to have 34"+ curved 1440p displays with stock 100/144hz sometime around Q3'17. If the "odd behavior" makes a reappearance then, I'd be more concerned.

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Acer Predator X27

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11304/acer-announces-predator-x27-4k-144-hz-hdr-gsync

  • 3840 × 2160 res
  • 144 Hz refresh
  • NVIDIA G-Sync HDR
  • IPS
  • 27"
  • "As for pricing, we may well be talking about devices with MSRPs north from $1500 (some whispers say so), but Acer and its rivals yet have to announce their MSRPs."

Just read the article.

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product page - https://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG35VQ/overview/

ASUS ROG SWIFT PG35VQ

  • Curved
  • 35"
  • 3440 x 1440
  • G-Sync + HDR
  • 200 Hz refresh rate
  • Dunno panel tech.

200 Hz seems like it would be too fast for VA so..... TN?

EDIT: Acer Predator X35 also announced. Same specs as above.

EDIT: Actually this nvidia article may be better source: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-g-sync-hdr-35-inch-curved-monitor

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Since this has kind become the defacto "monitor" topic, here's a non-Gsync display that caught my interest:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11653/dells-ultrasharp-u3818dw-available-curved-3840x1600

  • 37.5" 3840x1600 (24:10 ratio)
  • 2300R Curvature
  • USB-C display input (Alt DPv1.2)
  • 8 Bit + FRC (1 billion+ colors)
  • 60 Hz, but 3 other companies offer the same panel with Freesync and 75 Hz

I feel its a good combo ultra-wide to match some 4K displays as my 3440x1440 feels super tight (in terms of screen real estate in a multi-monitor setup) compared to my 4K next to it.

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At this point I'd actually prefer a 34" 3440x1440p curved 144hz + ips + gsync + hdr display.  I wonder what the scaling on a 4k display looks like if you drop it down to 1440p? I know it's old fashioned but it rubs me the wrong way to be using a monitor at non-native resolution.  Although I'm trying to figure out which would bother me more, running something at non-native resolution or running into black bars/stretched UI on games that don't support ultra-wide. 

 

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ASUS ROG Strix XG27VQ -and- ROG Swift PG27VQ

news article - http://www.anandtech.com/show/11716/asus-rog-strix-xg27vq-available-27-fhd-144hz-freesync
product page - https://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG-STRIX-XG27VQ/
product page - https://www.asus.com/Monitors/ROG-SWIFT-PG27VQ/

Euh. Curved 27"? That's too small for a curve. I can't imagine this will become a trend.

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Updates on Panel's coming out soon(ish) and further in the future.  http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/38.htm#auo_roadmap_oct17

The 4k, 27" 144hz AHVA Quantum Dot Gsync panels that Asus and Acer were announcing has been pushed back:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/37.htm#asus_rog_swift_pg27uq

These panels should go into production in November 2017 and panels should release around Q1'18. 

The bigger panels 32" same style specs (possibly curved) are being pushed way back to Q3'18 or even further. 

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i wanted to upgrade but i dont want to upgrade.

the problem is that i have a gtx1080 and i cant seems to play current games @1440p with max settings with the frames i like. soo 4k is gonna be worst.

most games now have the slider with resolutions scale ussually helps increase texture qualities. 

and also for the love of god. i dont know if this nvidia or windows issues. if i decided to play my game with non native resolutions my 2ndary monitor resolutions is all messed up. is this everyones problem or it only happens to me ?

how to fix it?

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Tino, it depends on the games in question and what your preference for framerates are.  I know i can run DOOM maxed out at a consistent 120+ but most other games I'm running are in the 80+ range depending on their graphical demands. 
Yes, I've gotten that same behavior from windows, either run it in borderless windows mode or run it at native - I haven't seen or heard a fix for this. 

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/38.htm#dell_alienware_aw3418dw

That looks pretty interesting.  Not quite 144hz but it ticks all the other boxes I have.  I'd like to see tftcentral test that, it's apparently on sale for the low low price of $1,500 so maybe we'll get a review soon enough. 

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http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_alienware_aw3418dw.htm

Reviews for the Dell "Alienware" 34" 100hz (120hz overclockable) IPS Gsync display.  TFT thinks is better than the older Acer X34 and Asus variants.  Looks like a slightly better panel. 

It's also available - although I'm confused on the price.  It says it lists for $1500 but then you go to dell's website and it's listing for $1150.  I can't tell if it's already on sale or what, but that's a nice price for that display. 

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