kuhla Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 article - https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/15/audi-e-tron-ev-safety/ Quote The 2019 E-Tron, Audi's flagship electric vehicle, has won the 2019 Top Safety Pick+ award from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), making it the first electric vehicle to earn such recognition. .... Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1no Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 nice bro nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 article - https://www.caranddriver.com/news/amp28784342/2020-chevy-bolt-ev-range/ Quote .... The 2020 Chevy Bolt EV will go further on a charge than before, with the EPA reporting that the electric hatchback's range goes up to 259 miles, from 238. Chevy says that this 8 percent improvement is due to changes to the chemistry of the cell electrodes in the battery. While the upgraded lithium-ion battery pack remains the same physical size as before and is packaged the same in the vehicle, the different chemistry means that its energy capacity goes up from 60.0-kWh to 66.0-kWh. Chevy's order guide does not show any other significant changes to the 2020 Bolt other than a few new features and colors (Oasis Blue and Cayenne Orange Metallic join the palette, while the bright-yellow Shock color has been dropped). The 200-horsepower electric motor remains the same. This new, bigger range number puts the Bolt EV in front of several newer competitors, if only just. The Hyundai Kona Electric is close behind, at an EPA-rated 258 miles, while the Kia Soul EV sits at 243 miles, the Tesla Model 3 Standard Range plus offers 240 miles, and the Kia Niro EV sits at 239 miles. .... Small improvement but nice. I would like to see if they could build a slight larger vehicle (think CUV) with the same tech at maybe the cost of some range. Probably would not help the price though since it already starts at $37k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kuhla Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 "Here's every electric vehicle on sale in the US for 2020 and its range" article - https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/every-electric-car-ev-range-audi-chevy-tesla/ Someone pushed it together into a nice table and added a price-per-mile column. On paper those Bolt numbers are looking pretty solid. Low price (for an EV) and good range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1no Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 praying for full electric a3 sportback etron with 250 + range next gen. or GTE would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, T1no said: .....with 250 + range..... I feel that part is super important. I really should be able to at least drive to San Diego and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 3:02 PM, kuhla said: article - https://www.caranddriver.com/news/amp28784342/2020-chevy-bolt-ev-range/ Small improvement but nice. I would like to see if they could build a slight larger vehicle (think CUV) with the same tech at maybe the cost of some range. Probably would not help the price though since it already starts at $37k. The Bolt is commonly available new right now for around $28k BEFORE (right now its $31k) incentives meaning ending price is somewhere around $21k-$24k post incentive. Currently used Bolts are around $17-22k (many more are expected come off 3 year leases in the next several months) 5 hours ago, kuhla said: "Here's every electric vehicle on sale in the US for 2020 and its range" article - https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/every-electric-car-ev-range-audi-chevy-tesla/ Someone pushed it together into a nice table and added a price-per-mile column. On paper those Bolt numbers are looking pretty solid. Low price (for an EV) and good range. Standard Range (SR) Model 3 can still be ordered for $35,000 but that's 220 miles. There was a Long Range RWD available for some time as well. SR RWD | 220 | $35,000 | $159.09 SR+ RWD | 240 | $38990 | $162.45 LR AWD | 310 | $47999 | $154.80 Before the LR RWD was discontinued it was LR RWD | 325 | $43990 | $135.35 The Bolt based on the pricing I mentioned above is closer to: Bolt | 238 | $28000 | $117.65 The prices above are all before incentives. For shits and giggles I bought my Spark EV in 2015 for around $12.5k AFTER incentives. Spark EV | 82 | $12500 | $152.43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jedi2155 said: Standard Range (SR) Model 3 can still be ordered for $35,000 but that's 220 miles. .... SR RWD | 220 | $35,000 | $159.09 If I go on tesla.com, the starting purchase price for the Model 3 is $38,990. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, kuhla said: If I go on tesla.com, the starting purchase price for the Model 3 is $38,990. You have to go to a store to order a Standard Range ($35,000 MSRP + $1,200 delivery fee, most manufacturers charge $500-800 or so) at the store and get a downgrade. Features will be removed. Presently Tesla has a logistics issue so its cheaper for them to include the hardware and software lock it, than to offer multiple trims and supply chain issues associated with it. I heard it costs Tesla something like $2-4,000 to actually deliver a car to a customer presently due to said logistics issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 "Volvo unveils the XC40 EV, its first full-electric vehicle" article - https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/16/volvo-xc40-ev-unveil/ 200+ miles of range recharge 80 percent from zero in 40 minutes dual motors will output 402 horsepower and 486 foot-pounds of torque zero-to-60 time will be 4.7 seconds XC40 Recharge, it'll start under $48,000 after federal tax credits and land in showrooms by the end of 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1no Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 looks nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 10:54 AM, kuhla said: "Volvo unveils the XC40 EV, its first full-electric vehicle" article - https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/16/volvo-xc40-ev-unveil/ 200+ miles of range recharge to 80 percent from 10% in 40 minutes dual motors will output 402 horsepower and 486 foot-pounds of torque zero-to-60 time will be 4.7 seconds XC40 Recharge, it'll start under $48,000 after federal tax credits and land in showrooms by the end of 2020 Looks like its designed to compete with the Model Y - Pricing is still a little high to compete with the Y though.. Model Y 280 to 300 miles 0 to 80% ~30 minutes (see above changes) Dual Motor ~450-470 HP, 530 ft lbs Zero to 60 - 3.5s Starts at $48,000 BEFORE incentives 2020 Q1 expected production Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 short article - https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/24/20930394/ford-mustang-electric-suv-mach-e-reveal-date Quote Ford will unveil its first mass-market electric vehicle — a Mustang-inspired SUV codenamed “Mach 1” that was first teased in January 2018 — on November 17th, the company announced on Thursday. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 "The all-electric Mini Cooper SE will start at $29,900" article - https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/28/mini-cooper-ev-us-pricing-availability/ Mini Cooper SE $29,900 181HP motor 0-60MPH in 6.9 seconds Top speed of 93MPH In Europe, the EV was rated for a range between 124 and 144 miles on a full battery charge... 0-100 percent capacity in as little as four hours at home through AC charging 0-80 percent in 35 minutes via DC charging at public stations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1no Posted October 29, 2019 Report Share Posted October 29, 2019 i'll drive that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted October 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 That means it will be under $20k after California incentives. Range still sucks though. Definitely usable but barely. I think 80 mile range is usable as a daily driver but it limits anything to the outer edge of LA and back without charging. This being rated at 120-140 is probably 120 in realistic side should get you about 50-60 miles radius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 Mustang Lithium Concept from SEMA 2019 in Las Vegas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1no Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 im waiting for nvidia car RTX GIGARAYS POWERED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 2021 Mustang Mach-E https://www.caranddriver.com/ford/mustang-mach-e CUV $45k base model. Higher models are like $60k. AWD model has 270 mile range. Other models hit 300. Lower end model power is 255hp, 306torque but other models go much higher. Giant tablet in the middle console. There is fast charging but I didn't see any speed estimates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 10:16 AM, kuhla said: 2021 Mustang Mach-E https://www.caranddriver.com/ford/mustang-mach-e CUV $45k base model. Higher models are like $60k. AWD model has 270 mile range. Other models hit 300. Lower end model power is 255hp, 306torque but other models go much higher. Giant tablet in the middle console. There is fast charging but I didn't see any speed estimates. The most interesting facet to me is: It takes 100 kWh for 300 miles vs 75 kWh for 330 miles on the Model 3, and 75 kWh for 300 miles on the Model Y. The 75 kWh version of the Mach-E is only 240 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 article - https://www.engadget.com/2019/12/29/mazda-says-long-range-evs-worse-than-diesels/ Quote Wonder why Mazda's MX-30 only has a modest 35.5kWh battery when its competition frequently has more? According to the brand's European research director Christian Schultze, it's to help the planet. He told Automotive News that the small pack is "responsibly" sized to have an overall CO2 emission footprint (including manufacturing and energy consumption) comparable to a diesel Mazda 3 hatchback, even after you replace the battery 100,000 miles into ownership. Long-range batteries would be worse for the environment, Schultze claimed, pointing to Mazda's calculations for long-term CO2 output. The company determined that a 95kWh battery (close to what you'd see in Tesla's higher-end Model S and X) would require more emissions from the very start due to both the larger pack and extended use while driving. That situation would only get worse if you replace the battery around the same interval, according to Mazda. .... The thought has crossed my mind but it's interesting to see some manufacturers try to do the math on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted December 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 8 hours ago, kuhla said: article - https://www.engadget.com/2019/12/29/mazda-says-long-range-evs-worse-than-diesels/ He told Automotive News that the small pack is "responsibly" sized to have an overall CO2 emission footprint (including manufacturing and energy consumption) comparable to a diesel Mazda 3 hatchback, even after you replace the battery 100,000 miles into ownership. 1. The premise that you have to replace the battery at 100,000 miles is a flawed one for multiple reasons. EV batteries should be designed to last for the life of the vehicle but this is an example of poor vehicle design. Current Model 3 Tesla's packs are designed to last between 300,000 to 500,000 miles before a pack replacement is expected with a 1,000,000 battery expected in the next few years. SCE had tested 100,000 mile range battery packs back in 2003. The world has have advanced tremendously in understanding battery physics since then. 2. Putting a smaller battery is bad from a life perspective as well. You just potentially doubled the emissions because your pack is half the size. This is because lithium-ion battery life is based on the Depth of Discharge (refer to table 2). Basically, if your 10 kWh battery last 300 cycles (30,000 kWh) using it from 100 to 0%, it can last twice as long if you only used 10% at a time 6,000 cycles (60,000 kWh). 2. Secondary use is a thing. Just because the battery is dead from a vehicle perspective (dead battery means the battery typically still has 70-80% of original capacity), doesnt' mean it can't be used for other purposes example One, Two. 3. Recyclability is the real key. Redwood Materials founded by Telsa's recently stepped down CTO JB Straubel is considered to be the real key to "close the loop" in sustainability for the EV world is making a lot of progress in this front. No no Mr. Bond, the reason you gave that spin of a response is because your designers couldn't figure out how to put more than 35.5 kWh in your product safely and cheaply and you're just giving a BS excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 I wanted to see what recent vehicles were available in 4WD/AWD and that were also hybrids or all electric. link https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&year1=2019&year2=2020&minmsrpsel=0&maxmsrpsel=0&city=0&hwy=0&comb=0&cbdt4wd=4WD&cbvthybrid=Hybrid&cbvtplugin=Plug-in+Hybrid&cbvtelectric=Electric&YearSel=2019-2020&make=&mclass=&vfuel=&vtype=Hybrid%2C+Plug-in+Hybrid%2C+Electric&trany=&drive=4WD&cyl=&MpgSel=000&sortBy=Comb&Units=&url=SearchServlet&opt=new&minmsrp=0&maxmsrp=0&minmpg=&maxmpg=&rowLimit=200&pageno=1&tabView=0 Tesla Model 3 Tesla Model S Tesla Model X Jaguar I-Pace Audi eTron Porsche Taycan Subaru Crosstrek Volvo S60 Volvo V60 Volvo S90 Volvo XC90 BMW 530e xDrive ....ok I'm going to stop typing for now. There are more but also a bunch that are considered hybrids but don't have an electric only mode which is a big bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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