Jump to content
 
Sign in to follow this  
Jedi2155

Monitor Discussion

Recommended Posts

Here's some interesting news about some of the possible future displays coming down the line.

Below we bring you some news from AU Optronics about some of their forthcoming panels. Surely of most interest is a new 27" panel (M270DAN02.3) currently in development which will be based on AUO's AHVA panel technology, equivalent to LG.Display's IPS and with very similar performance characteristics. This is a 27" panel with a 2560 x 1440 resolution, 1000:1 contrast ratio, 350 cd/m2 brightness, sRGB gamut and 178/178 viewing angles. Nothing special you might think - wrong! This will be the first IPS-type panel to natively support 144Hz refresh rate, something buyers have been crying out for for a long time! 144Hz AHVA and 2560 x 1440 resolution, we can't wait!

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/31.htm#144hz_ips

 

Now there is a problem currently (especially with the Asus Swift) regarding 1440p at 144hz, namely that it isn't within the displayport spec. You can push 120hz just fine, but 144hz is slightly outside of the current displayport standard. That's why this is the second piece of interesting news.

VESA-1.3-1.jpg

 

http://www.vesa.org/uncategorized/vesa-releases-displayport-1-3-standard/

 

The new standard just released today, so theoretically a manufacturer could produce a 2560x1440 @ 144hz g-sync monitor with an IPS* panel that uses the new 1.3 displayport standard. So now we wait...

 

Bear-sitting-picnic-table.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So my requirements for a new monitor are as follows:

1. > 100 Hz refresh rate

2. IPS

3. 21:9

4. High resolution

 

It seems that all these technologies seem to be counter to each other still....my dream setup is the following:
336H0x1440 resolution @ 144 Hz

H-IPS

Glossy Screey

 

I'd pay big bucks for that type of monitor...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You can get most of that soon except for the 21:9 and honestly I don't think that standard will get traction.

 

Acer has a 28", 4K, 60Hz, g-sync model coming in the next month which supposedly can go to 144Hz at 1080p.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Its a TN panel, and while I haven't seen an 8-bit TN panel in person yet, I'm still uncomfortable with the thought a TN panel as a primary monitor.

 

Additionally, I think 21:9 > 4K in terms of gaming immersion and just plain usability.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I want a monitor like this:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005624&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true&RandomID=560587110522910420140926052621

 

Except I want it with the bump in resolution from 1080 to 1440p and higher refresh rate. Of course the bezel on that is huge and would be nicer to be bigger. I can totally live with a dual display system like that rather than a triple monitor setup.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I want a monitor like this:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005624&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true&RandomID=560587110522910420140926052621

 

Except I want it with the bump in resolution from 1080 to 1440p and higher refresh rate. Of course the bezel on that is huge and would be nicer to be bigger. I can totally live with a dual display system like that rather than a triple monitor setup.

 

http://www.lg.com/us/ultrawide-monitors

 

LG 34UM95 3440x1440

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Getting really tired of waiting for a proper g-sync display and want to try 144hz in any form but so much compromise....

 

http://www.displaywars.com/24-inch-16x9-vs-24-inch-16x10

 

http://www.displaywars.com/27-inch-16x9-vs-24-inch-16x10

 

The premium on 27", without g-sync, is hard to swallow but having a slightly smaller 24" (compared to current 16:10 24") is an annoying detail.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kuhla mentioned this particular product from BenQ:

24" 144hz 1080p for $650.

 

http://shop.benq.us/xl2420g.html?utm_campaign=mainsitelink&utm_source=main

 

Personally I find this incredibly underwhelming, it's a smaller display with the same technology for a $50 premium.

 

Although we have Newegg pricing it at $600, I wonder if they'll wait a week and then push the price back up to the msrp listed on BenQ's website.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

newegg link - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014412

benq product page - http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2420g/

 

newegg link to all current g-sync monitors - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007617&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&SrchInDesc=G-SYNC&Page=1&PageSize=20

 

At the same price as the Acer, the BenQ has a better feature set and a better track record (for gaming monitors). That being said, even with g-sync, $600 is still hard to swallow for 24" 1080p.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looks like the Asus 27" is the best bet at $800. I like its thin bezel look. Although still not a fan of TN (I'm running 27/24 IPS setup right now). In reality I wouldn't pay extra for G-Sync since screen tearing doesn't bother me. I always leave V-Sync off for everything anyways.

 

The BenQ bezel design does look a lot like my U2410 though.....(dotted buttons, plus USB hub on the left side)

 

Dell_U2410_capacitive-touch-buttons.jpg

My U2410

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

damn i dint realized this stuff is that expensive.

 

was interested @ 27" 144 not sure if i can ever go back to 24 inches

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looks like the Asus 27" is the best bet at $800. I like its thin bezel look. Although still not a fan of TN (I'm running 27/24 IPS setup right now). In reality I wouldn't pay extra for G-Sync since screen tearing doesn't bother me. I always leave V-Sync off for everything anyways.

 

If your frame rate is high enough in most games you play, there are people who enjoy strobing technology over g-sync (who have both so they can A B test). I encourage you to look into those but that still leaves only TN tech since it's the only thing fast enough. Buying a monitor based purely on size or aspect ratio right now kind of irks me when I see some interesting tech being pushed.

 

Which monitor do you have right now? Are you interested in something like the Overlord Tempest X270OC? http://overlordcomputer.com/collections/27-monitors which for all intents and purposes is a more "local" sourced Catleap 2B with a better stand.

 

damn i dint realized this stuff is that expensive.

 

was interested @ 27" 144 not sure if i can ever go back to 24 inches

 

SInce everything is 16:9 now, and I'm on a 24" 16:10, I'm kind of in the same boat. I'm really hesitant to consider any 24" 16:9 because I think it will feel smaller but, at least with g-sync, it's adding a rather large premium.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why is G-Sync so interesting to you guys?

 

Anytime I see tearing it really bothers me but I still leave v-sync off most of the time because I find the 60fps-30fps-60fps transition can be pretty jarring. Adaptive v-sync kind of works but it's very much a band-aid. G-sync solves both problems by having zero tearing while allowing the fps to be completely variable (provided it's over 40 and under 144). I think it's kind of an exciting piece of tech. It's one of the few inovations in a very slow piece of the consumer tech world (displays).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I figured that's what it is but just wanted to make sure that was it. You also just described how I feel about aliasing =D. Actually I rarely see screen tearing on my screen now that I have my monitor at 110 Hz.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

....and I have heard from people on 100+ Hz screens that tearing is less noticiable but I still have only ever had 60Hz screens :(

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

im sure you guys already discuss this but let me get this i have to pay close to 700 for 27 inch 144hz with g snyc ?

vs

just 27 144hz for 370 ish

 

just about ~300 dollar more ish just for g snyc. and im talking about 1080p screen with tn panel -_- expensive ehh

 

impressive tech tho. screen tearing doesn't bother me. but then again i never play on 144hz

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not sure where you are getting the $370 from.

 

The BenQ XL2720Z (27", 144Hz, 1080p) is $460.

 

The BenQ XL2411Z (24", 144Hz, 1080p) is $275.

 

The Tempest X270OC (27", 96+Hz, 1440p, IPS) is $450.

 

None of those have g-sync.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...