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I'm still wondering if Nvidia plans on releasing a GTX 1080 Ti in a reason 6-9 month time scale.

Based on this opinion piece, they give a good reasoning on that the architecture of a potential GTX 1080 Ti or Titan based card to be a cut down version of the already shipping GP100 card. Basically the currently GP100 utilizes 3584 FP32 cores (and 1792 FP64 cores) vs. the 1080's 2560 FP32 cores. The GP102 would simply be the GP100 minus the FP64 cores for a cut down version. So there would be a significant 30-50% performance increase similar to how the 980 vs. 980 Ti.

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-pascal-gp102/

 

Also looking at the release history of the previous 2 generations:

Time delay: 6 Months

GTX 780 - May 23, 2013

GTX 780 TI - November 7, 2013

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_700_series#GeForce_700_.287xx.29_series

 

Time Delay: 9 Months

GTX 980 - September 18, 2014

GTX 980 Ti - June 2, 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_900_series#GeForce_900_.289xx.29_series

 

Going by those trends you would see a 1080 Ti launch around the 2017 Q1 time frame. Still debating if I should wait for that or jump on the vanilla 1080 bandwagon.

 

 

*EDIT*

WHELP, just googled some more details and they already announced the GP102 as the the Titan X with a launch date of August 2nd, 2016.

 

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/titan-x-pascal

 

Haha, I don't read most tech blogs anymore but anandtech posted it today too....

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10510/nvidia-announces-nvidia-titan-x-video-card-1200-available-august-2nd

$1200

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You also have to factor that each Ti release carries a much higher price point than the standard flagship of that generation. The 980 launched at $549 and the 980ti launched at $649.

Considering the current 1080's are between $650 and $750, I would expect the MSRP of the non-founders edition 1080ti to be $700 and I also expect supply constraints pushing that closer to $750 at launch.

 

I feel like the Ti releases only really make sense when they're right at end of life and you can get them for cheap. You can currently get a 980ti for $400 which is pretty decent value, it's a 30% reduction in performance for a 42% reduction in price compared to a 1080. You also can find even cheaper 980ti's if you look on forums for people selling them. But at launch it's never really made sense to get the ti cards from a $ to performance standpoint.

 

I feel like this generation is very expensive, I wonder if next generation we'll see a drop in price and a drop in performance gains or if Nvidia will keep the high prices and higher margins. I'm also somewhat curious to see how they'll handle the 980ti launch and if they'll have a large Founder's Edition exclusivity window or if they'll just launch it alongside OEMs. Either way I don't expect anything for the next 8 months.

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From the price performance stand point it never makes sense to go past the GTx70 line for most gaming requirements which was basically what I purchased for most generations. My personal gaming needs however are starting to increase since I run multiple EVE clients and play overwatch simulataneously so I'm stressing my 970 quite a bit.

 

Not to mention I've been thinking about moving my 4K monitor (currently being used as a 1080p Chromecast TV in the bedroom) as my 3rd monitor which means I'll want even more GPU performance.

 

In both cases, I'm looking to future proof it a bit more and buy at least a 1080, but was hoping for a 1080 Ti level of performance since I was considering a card in the $600-750 range anyways.

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So now we are at a point where if you buy a top end graphics card and a top end curved gaming monitor you are already at $2500.

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Who needs an apartment and food when you have GEFORCE

 

 

 

Based on that chart on PCPer, I think there's still going to be a 1080 Ti in a few months with a 384 Bit memory bus, cores between a 1080/Titan, at some point.

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I doubt they're going to release the 1080Ti that early. They already own the high end gpu market, they'd just be cannibalizing their own sales. Nvidia can afford to sit back and release it in 8 months when sales start to slow down and AMD attempt to release something competitive.

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I don't expect them to release it very early, but I figure Q1 or Q2 2017 is a reasonable guess (I'm learning towards Q1 though). GTX 970 and 980 Ti sales were strong right up to the 1080 release.

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New GeForce Experience 3.0 released:

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/geforce-experience-3-0-released

 

The downside is that you are required to register an email account to use it. They haven't locked driver downloads behind user registration (yet).

I'll probably check into it, I've been rather happy with the geforce experience and some of their optimization settings, although I'd still recommend using OBS for streaming or recording unless you plan on using very high bitrates on the Nvenc codec.

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Also looking at the release history of the previous 2 generations:

Time delay: 6 Months

GTX 780 - May 23, 2013

GTX 780 TI - November 7, 2013

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_700_series#GeForce_700_.287xx.29_series

 

Time Delay: 9 Months

GTX 980 - September 18, 2014

GTX 980 Ti - June 2, 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_900_series#GeForce_900_.289xx.29_series

 

Going by those trends you would see a 1080 Ti launch around the 2017 Q1 time frame. Still debating if I should wait for that or jump on the vanilla 1080 bandwagon.

 

I TOLD YOU.

 

DID I NOT TELL YOU!?

 

https://www.engadget.com/2017/02/28/nvidia-reveals-its-700-top-of-the-line-gtx-1080-ti/

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I noticed no one mentioned the Titan Xp announcement which is a full GP102 chip effectively retiring the extremely short lived Titan X (8 months):

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11253/nvidia-announces-nvidia-titan-xp-full-gp102-for-1200

 

I did see that and at the time I did think to myself that if I had silly amounts of money and bought a GTX 1080 Ti just to see this announced a little while later I would have been pretty salty.

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Imagine the people who bought a Titan right before the 1080 Ti came out, and then this would've been a second whammy. Whats interesting to me, was that the same thing occurred in the 7 series Titans (Titan, 780 Ti, Titan Black) but not the 9 series. They did it again on the 10 series.

 

Their naming scheme is also interesting:

 

GeForce GTX Titan (7 series)

GeForce GTX Titan Black (7 series)

GeForce GTX Titan Z (7 series)

GeForce GTX Titan X (9 series)

Nvidia Titan X (10 series)

Nvidia Titan Xp (10 series)
Switching to Nvidia instead of Geforce this generation...

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