kuhla Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 Has been up and running for a few days. I guess it's worth a post. Same monitors as before. Both 27". One IPS and 1440p. One TN and 1080p. Likely will target this for the next upgrade after a new GPU. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7700x CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler/2021/13067.shtml Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AUros Pro AX https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-1x#kf Was not actually my first choice. I was initially looking at a cheaper board but my first choice was out of stock at the time I had to buy (bundle deal). I'm still very satisfied with this choice though. RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 Same GPU as before. GTX 1080. Hoping for a new one soon. Case: Lian Li O11 Air Mini Same PSU as before. Corsair AX860. Install and setup went as smooth as anyone could possibly hope for. Quickly updated the BIOS. Loaded EXPO profile for the memory and it worked straight away. Is very quiet at idle and not that loud at load. The cooling seems very sufficient. Have consistently noticed a performance bump in games but not too much since I'm mostly GPU limited. Every day tasks were already plenty fast and there may be some change there but it might be mostly placebo. The goal of this build was to avoid any really unnecessary costs and future-proof for a few years (although that didn't benefit me that much on my last build from 2017). Hopefully I'm good for a while again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 2:19 PM, kuhla said: Has been up and running for a few days. I guess it's worth a post. Same monitors as before. Both 27". One IPS and 1440p. One TN and 1080p. Likely will target this for the next upgrade after a new GPU. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7700x CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler/2021/13067.shtml Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AUros Pro AX https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-1x#kf Was not actually my first choice. I was initially looking at a cheaper board but my first choice was out of stock at the time I had to buy (bundle deal). I'm still very satisfied with this choice though. RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 Same GPU as before. GTX 1080. Hoping for a new one soon. Case: Lian Li O11 Air Mini Same PSU as before. Corsair AX860. Install and setup went as smooth as anyone could possibly hope for. Quickly updated the BIOS. Loaded EXPO profile for the memory and it worked straight away. Is very quiet at idle and not that loud at load. The cooling seems very sufficient. Have consistently noticed a performance bump in games but not too much since I'm mostly GPU limited. Every day tasks were already plenty fast and there may be some change there but it might be mostly placebo. The goal of this build was to avoid any really unnecessary costs and future-proof for a few years (although that didn't benefit me that much on my last build from 2017). Hopefully I'm good for a while again. I did always wonder why you didn't just upgrade to 5900X or 5800X3D simplifying the whole process when those were launched. I'm still running the same general chassis from 2014 build (Intel 4790k, Z97 etc.), but swapped the Mobo/Ram/CPU, and did another CPU upgrade from 3900X to 5900X. Sold the old parts before it lost too much value minimizing net upgrade costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted December 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Jedi2155 said: I did always wonder why you didn't just upgrade to 5900X or 5800X3D simplifying the whole process when those were launched. The 5900x was $550 at launch. The 5800x3d was $450 at launch. My 7700x was only $350 and puts me on a new socket early in its lifespan with a few years more of support. Adding another $210 on top of that (total $560) got me a motherboard, double the memory I have now and also moved me to a new standard (DDR5). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 22 hours ago, kuhla said: The 5900x was $550 at launch. The 5800x3d was $450 at launch. My 7700x was only $350 and puts me on a new socket early in its lifespan with a few years more of support. Adding another $210 on top of that (total $560) got me a motherboard, double the memory I have now and also moved me to a new standard (DDR5). Since you mentioned cost was your biggest driving factor, did you ever update your CPU from the 1700x? If not the best price/performance ratio would've been to get you to a 5800X3D which was ~$310 a month ago compared to ~$1100 you did spend. Seeing that mentioned socket early in the life of the system, if you never did take advantage of CPU upgrades then it becomes a moot point and net cost becomes the primary logical selling point. Unless I misunderstood otherwise, I think you just wanted new, rather than optimized price/performance which was the justification you put forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaphax Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 I understand where you're coming from Jedi2155, but I think a better way of looking at it is insurance. Kuhla bought into an architecture that he had the ability to upgrade, just because he didn't doesn't mean it was a waste, since it was always an option for him. If he had been on an intel platform he would have only had the ability to jump to a brand new socket/CPU. Likewise, he's again choosing a platform that has better longevity, even if he sits with his current setup and never upgrades it still provides him more options than going with an Intel setup. I've seen several people mention that while the AM5 ecosystem is a bit more expensive than going with an intel option, it may be worth choosing AMD and paying slightly more to have an upgrade path in the future. Especially since we've seen a return of CPU bottlenechs at the high end even in some 1440p games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted December 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 Some additional context that may help: I was on an X370 board. While a BIOS update was available to add support for 5000 series CPUs, I had some concerns about putting a fairly new CPU in a motherboard 2 generations "behind" (x370 -> x470 -> x570). My motherboard was ITX and the case was only sized for ITX with just 2 slots for the GPU. With all GPUs seemingly moving to 3-4 slots in size, I was going to need a new case if I was going to update my GPU at some point without restricting myself to special 2-slot cards like some watercooled cards. I did not have a strict budget. I could have afforded to just go extreme and get a 7950x or 12900k however even if that was possibly better value on paper I would have no real use case. Would be wasted. The DDR5 bundle at Microcenter was a really big piece of this. 32GB of decent timings and decent speed on a new memory standard for free? That seems like good value and doubled what I had in my last build (16GB). Without the DDR5 bundle I had been leaning towards Intel 13600K + motherboard and keeping my current memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted December 17, 2022 Report Share Posted December 17, 2022 Understand the insurance point, which was a selling point for a lot of people when doing DIY builds but very few actually take advantage of it. The whole ITX limitation of a 2 slot card vs 3 slot however makes a whole lot more sense though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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