ren Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 i bought a new hard drive should i replace my primary 160gb drive- net gain 1340 GB secondary 300gb drive - net gain 1200 GB secondary "broken" 500gb drive - net gain 1000 GB primary would give most space secondary 300 would give most space without hassle of reformatting secondary 500 has speed issues (very slow), so it would improve performance. but would give the least space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Ren you fail at reading topic titles. If you don't need the space immediately (or won't use it up very fast), I would replace the 500 and try to warranty replace the 500. If you do..then swap the primary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Ren you fail at reading topic titles. haha. good move. If you don't need the space immediately (or won't use it up very fast), I would replace the 500 and try to warranty replace the 500. If you do..then swap the primary. +1 on that. I don't like the idea of "broken" drives in my system. Replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 its not broken, its just slow. i dont need the space immediately as i would still be gaining 1.2tbs of net space even if i replace the 300gb there is no way i can warranty replace it. after some thought i'm definitely not swapping the primary as i WILL be filling up this drive, and when i change os's on my system i would have to find some way to offload 1.3 tbs of data before i do a reformat? <-- this is not possible for me btw. before you suggest it, i don't like partitioning my drives so im not doing that. so right now its between 200gb space vs performance increase on a storage drive (when i say slow i mean ~20MB/s read/writes) im leaning towards the extra space as most of the stuff on that drive can probably stay put for a couple years without me needing to move it (so it would just be reads that would be slow) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted May 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 20 MB/sec is pretty dang slow for a 500 GB which typically pushed about 50-60 MB when they were first introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 20 MB/sec is pretty dang slow for a 500 GB which typically pushed about 50-60 MB when they were first introduced.yes, i know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 well its alot faster on hdtune than what I usually get in real world usage but I guess it wasn't as slow as I thought it was.. still out of these 2 drives which would you replace? I'm mainly asking richard since I already got kuhla's opinon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted May 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Look at the time groupings of that seagate...so just small... and tight. But anyways, I'm guessing you just formatted the Seagate, but I would remove the Seagate. Although why is your access times so high? They look like almost like 5400 rpm drives O.o, or going through a raid controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Look at the time groupings of that seagate...so just small... and tight. But anyways, I'm guessing you just formatted the Seagate, but I would remove the Seagate. Although why is your access times so high? They look like almost like 5400 rpm drives O.o, or going through a raid controller. your post didn't make sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 I might as well post the image I made yesterday for ren, for further reference. I had multiple applications going at the time but nothing downloading/uploading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 I ended up taking out the 400 gig for now if storage becomes an issue I can swap out the 300 in the future pretty easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaphax Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 So i will soon have 4 hdd's. My 250gb samsung, 500gb samsung. And 2*1.5tb seagates Currently I have my 250gb as my primary drive, and my 500gb is backups/anime/iso's in an external. Now I'm wondering if I should keep the 500gb as an external for some backups, and let the 1.5's be my mainstay for data... OR I could go absolutely crazy and keep the 1.5's in raid 1, so that my data is 100% backed up. Currently my 500gb is getting full, so I would still have 1tb of space to work with even if I had the drives in raid 1 I don't plan on wasting space just because I have it, I don't really need the full 3tb's. So i'm thinking at least for now of keeping the seagate drives in raid 1. I assume raid 1 is not hard to do and my mobo supports it. Worst case scenario if for some reason I do start to run out of space, I can just un-raid the drives and use them both individually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 i would use a 1.5tb as primary and the second 1.5tb as backup i think raid 1 is a horrible idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jedi2155 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 After trying to troubleshoot a relative's laptop and plugging his laptop drive into my main system....my Raptor died. Reallocated Sector failure...I hate my nVidia chipset in how it won't allow me to check SMART data due to the way the drivers work. I was just trying to deal with this very possiblity just last week as I wasn't sure as to the health of my drives but here it is voila, died, and didn't get a chance to backup my OS drive (luckily I have a lot of the data just older copies backed up but still lost enough to annoy me significantly). I might have a workable system image I made back on the 24th and hopefully the only reason it failed would be that my drive was borked.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 link - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....amp;Order=PRICE Very strongly considering the Samsung F3 1TB bare drive at $80. Bear in mind that is the newer F3 series with 2*500GB platters, so high density. Would coincide well with reformat to Windows 7. At that price it comes to only 0.078 cents per GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 So I noticed a whining noise coming from my case a 2-3 times recently but didn't think much of it, fan or something. It happened again today and I wanted to know what it was so I took side panel off and it is definitely the hard drive. The last time I heard a sound like that coming from a hard drive it died not long later. This drive is pretty old. I may look into buying a new hard drive soon for fear of losing what I've got on here right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Get 2 TB hitachi for all your needs or WD. Avoid seagate ahhhh i hate them. My personal opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Get 2 TB hitachi for all your needs or WD. Avoid seagate ahhhh i hate them. My personal opinion. Yea, I'm not looking at any Seagates right now. My own bad experiences with them and so many horror stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Turned on my computer about 15 minutes ago, went on youtube, started watching a clip and about half way through there was a large thump (both a shake to my desk and a noise from the case) and everything stopped responding. Hard drive is 100% dead. It won't even spin up. I'm currently posting from mom's laptop. My windows 7 key and image is on there so I'm not sure what I'm going to do about that right now. I'm going to see about what other driver I can use right now and possibly start installing Vista again tonight. I'll also probably be buying a new hard drive in the next day or two. Might be a western digital 1tb. EDIT: So I literally just walked back into my room and grabbed an old hard drive on top of my desk, replaced the other drive and now I'm downloading 10 million updates. This image is OLD. I've got anime on here I forgot I ever downloaded. Wierd. Still need to figure out what I'm going to do about all my lost data. Hmmm. EDIT 2: To give you an idea how old, I've got the image on my desktop from Age of Conan the resource gathering in Lachish Plains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 So some progress: * Multiplayer games currently available are TF2. That's it. I may play some of that tonight. Aion is downloading but that will take a long time. There are a small handful of single player games on here too so I may look into those. * I see that the microsoft academic thing saves all your keys online so I was able to get my Win7 key again. I may try to get the cd image from one of you guys though instead of trying to re-download that. * Tomorrow I will most likely place an order for a WD1001FALS 1TB drive. If I knew that the WD1001FAsS (2*500GB platters -vs- current 3*334GB platters) were coming out soon then I'd wait for it but there is no release date for them. Samsung F3 is both out of stock and price difference is only $15 .... and my illogical peace of mind is worth at least that much. I'm a western digital fan, this is truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 That's my current OS drive and I'm content with it. Plus I might be working for them (got a call for an interview on Friday). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 I'm not totally happy with my options right now for hard drives but I don't really want to wait either. (1) The "advanced format" drives should start appearing soon, first in lower performing models but should make their way up with some time. (2) Western Digital top end drives are due for a refresh soon. If I had even a rough estimate on when those two events would happen, I could decide if I want to wait or not. I want to move to Win7 as soon as I can. I may try to talk my family into assisting in the funding of a backup drive for all our photos and some of my data. It would be disconnected most of the time, stored in a box. The Western Digital Caviar Green WD15EADS 1.5TB seems like a cheap drive that would serve that function well. I'm still looking at a Western Digital Caviar Black (WD1001FALS) 1TB as a new primary drive for my PC. I can get it for $97.80 (assuming before tax), shipped from NextWarehouse.com with Bing cashback. I don't see an option for newegg. EDIT: I've also mulled over the idea of two drives. A storage drive and a primary drive. The logic I'm following is that two drives means twice the chance for mechanical failure but the primary drive would be getting significantly more usage than the storage drive so I would assume the storage drive would last much longer. I dunno. It's more $$$ but I'm not sure it would mean less chance of data loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2155 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 IMO: Buy a cheap lower end storage drive like the EADS right now and use that as a primary. Later on when the new WD's are released, buy that and use that as a primary HOWEVER partition it so that you have a small OS section where you can do a complete Image of from time to time onto the older EADS storage drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhla Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I think I've decided I'm pretty much going to do what Richard said above. I'll probably be buying a Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARS 1TB. This is a 500GB per-platter drive with the new "advanced format". Pretty new on newegg. newegg - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136490 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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